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On Thursday, May 15th, 2008 the California Supreme Court overturned a proposition passed by California voters in 2000 declaring that only marriages between men and women could be legally recognized.

The 4-3 decision reversed a lower court ruling enforcing the ban on same-sex marriage.

Before the Califonria court decision, only one other state, Massachussetts, allowed same-sex marriage. But as the most populous state in the nation, California's ruling could have far-reaching national impact.

It has been noted by theologians for many generations that while eternity is the context in which God judges the sins of individuals, nations are only temporal--so God judges them in the "here and now." While it is true that there are consequences for sin that work themselves out in this life for individuals, ultimate divine judgment for unrepented sin is in the hereafter. Since there are no "nations" in the afterlife, since geopolitical entities only exist in history, it is in that history that they will know the judgment or blessing of God, as they reject or follow the light they have been given. Psalm 33:12 says, "Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord." Proverbs 14:34 says, "Righteousness exalts a nation but sin is a reproach to any people."

In Romans 1, the Apostle Paul charts the course of a people when they reject God. Their sin progresses until God's Spirit eventually stops resisting their moral and spiritual decline. He withdraws His gracious urging of repentance and let's them go into the debauchery they've longed for. He "turns them over." Paul says one of the evidences a people have arrived at this desperate place is when homosexuality among both men and women becomes accepted.

Take a close look at Romans 1:18-31. Watch the spiritual and moral decline charted here.

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Those who believe in the God of the BIble ought to see the California Court's decsion to legalize same-sex marriage as a sobering wake up call to the danger our nation is in. In November, the citizens of California will have an opportunity to reverse the court's ruling with an amendmane to the State Constitution the court cannot over ride. But this is NOT ENOUGH! The people of California must recognize the dangerous peril the 4 judges placed the State in by their decision. These judges must be recalled from office.

If someone was caught selling defense secrets to Al Qaeda, information that imperield the lives of millions of innocent children, we'd think nothing of locking that person away for the rest of their life. The 4 justices who removed the ban on same sex marriage in Califonria have no less imperiled the lives of the people of California and the rest of the nation. It is unconscionable that they continue in office.

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David said:

How can the Supreme Court over-rule a proposition when it was voted upon by California voters? I was raised and taught that the voice of the people is in our vote. If we vote on something it is considered majority rules. So my question is, how can 4 people over rule a vote made by at least 10 million votes in a state? If we the people have no power to choose or to voice what we believe, what is the point in voting?
We are certainly in the last days. Jesus is at the door of heaven waiting for the Father to give the command to come for his Church. It will be at any moment.
This state and this country will and has fallen under the judgement. I pity those that have chosen to reject God's free gift of salvation. They have chosen God's wrath over his Grace.

Maranatha! (come Lord Jesus)
May 28, 2008

Sean Ragan said:

The American civilization was based on the Judeo-Christian doctrine of 2 genders: Either Male or Female. Today, American culture is accepting the doctrine of 3 genders: Male or Female or "Transgender/Gay". Never in the history of mankind has a civilization redefined gender into 3 categories and subsequently redefined marriage as anything other than man and woman. The reverberations of this redefinition is unprecedented. No ancient religion or philosophers of antiquity have ever attempted to redefine gender & marriage. This unprecedented shift in redefining the basic/foundational units of civilization and culture is the result of the opening of Pandora's Box in the radical sexual revolution of the 1960's. The 3 gender doctrine is now the normative teaching in the majority of public schools in America. It would not surprise me if the majority of youth and young adults (under 30) have accepted this 3 gender doctrine. At it's core it is an anti-Christ deception. Once the 3 gender doctrine is the "law of the land" then America must enforce this law against those who would preach and advocate otherwise.

Romans 1:18-31 is certainly the course our nation has taken. We are officially in a post Judeo-Christian culture.

The American church will be challenged to uphold the holiness of God's immutable laws while offering the power of the Gospel to set men free of "unwanted" same-sex attraction. Our Christian faith will be tested like no other period in American history.
May 28, 2008

Matt H said:

There is an email going around that had a line that I thought was slightly applicable to this...

The quote of the month is by Jay Leno:

'With hurricanes, tornados, fires out of control, mud slides, flooding, severe thunderstorms tearing up the country from one end to another, and with the threat of bird flu and terrorist attacks, are we sure this is a good time to take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance?'



Now this ruling, I think you might have a point Lance.
June 03, 2008

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